[UPDATED VERSION!] The Trouble With The Electoral College

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FYI: I don't count the 1824 election as the final winner was determined by the house of representatives and thus not *technically* a straight-up Electoral College fail.
Projected from: www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president
Meanwhile: noburn.info/id/video/uonNZ62TlICLoHI.html
Runtime: 00:22

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Francis La Rocca
Francis La Rocca - 2 dager siden
That was done on purpose as a check and balance on the majority, idiot.
Brandon Deemter
Brandon Deemter - 17 dager siden
If you don’t know how or why we have the electoral college, you don’t deserve to be an American.
Will Lazarbeam
Will Lazarbeam - 2 måneder siden
He sounds like what the Supreme Court looks like
JuLi0n21
JuLi0n21 - 2 måneder siden
Update?
jayko945
jayko945 - 2 måneder siden
The real question is did you have a video qued up for a different outcome this year?
Walter Watson
Walter Watson - 2 måneder siden
"Would anyone accept a sport in which, by a quirk of the rules, there was a 5% chance the loser could win?"
Laughs in best-of-seven series where it is very easy for the team with the least points/goals/runs to win.
Kevin Boros
Kevin Boros - 2 måneder siden
I hope we will have an update for this video.
Izaya Orihara
Izaya Orihara - 2 måneder siden
Seeing this in my feed right now stresses me out because technically the electorates won’t vote until like January or whatever, we’ve only finished the popular vote so far
Kevin Boros
Kevin Boros - 2 måneder siden
@Hideyoshi Too bad...
Hideyoshi
Hideyoshi - 2 måneder siden
if they go against what's clearly been decided than there'll be some serious legal problems. Fortunately it's unlikely at this point that anything will change as most states(including republican led ones) have thrown out the lawsuits.
Izaya Orihara
Izaya Orihara - 2 måneder siden
I really really REALLY hope this doesn’t get ANOTHER update 😰
Robert Bartlemay
Robert Bartlemay - 2 måneder siden
This is deceptive framing. They aren’t loser if they won and became President.
Giovanni Lloret Sorribas
Giovanni Lloret Sorribas - 2 måneder siden
It's not deceptive framing, it's called thinking that the people should determine who the president is like everywhere else
Snookbone
Snookbone - 2 måneder siden
"Would people tolerate a sport where, by some quirk of the rules, the loser won 7% of the time?"
Well the most popular sports league in the world gives a higher seed to a team with a worse record than at least one of the wild card teams almost every year...
Snookbone
Snookbone - 2 måneder siden
@houseofleaves12 well it doesn't just affect seeding, it eliminates better teams.
Derek the half a bee
Derek the half a bee - 2 måneder siden
66% of California voters are liberal. Why? Because humans are sheep and tend to think like those around them. The same overwhelming majority occurs with Conservatives in Red states. The electoral college ensures the most diversity in voting by limiting the power of large regionally centered populations who tend to think alike or have a shared vested interest. With the EC, presidential candidates have to cater to all regions who have diverse needs and political concerns which is why they campaign across the entire country. So I'd say the EC is working as intended.
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
Or more people chose live there. Why should some rural hillbilly have 5x more power than a Californian? Why can’t all our votes be the Same?
Giovanni Lloret Sorribas
Giovanni Lloret Sorribas - 2 måneder siden
Didn't know the entire country was the rust belt + VA, NC, GA and FL
__
__ - 2 måneder siden
Actually if you plot education quality, that better explains the phenomenon. Californians vote Democrat because they're better educated, and all have the same education. Also I don't see why it matters if the majority picks the winner. That is by far the best FPTP system. The minority picking makes 0 sense.
Jack Ward
Jack Ward - 2 måneder siden
Umm or they cater to only swing states?
dcbolivia
dcbolivia - 2 måneder siden
I love CGP Grey, but the graphics aren't accurate. Only in 1876 did the loser of the electoral college win a majority of the popular vote. You only get to the numbers presented on the graphs if you throw out third party candidates, but I think that alters the conclusion, which depends on what you think is the definition of "winning" the popular vote. If you believe in majoritarian democracy, then no one "won" the popular vote in 1888, 2000, or 2016 because a majority of voters did not vote for any one candidate.
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
@dcbolivia that’s why we need rank choice voting
dcbolivia
dcbolivia - 2 måneder siden
@SuperThunderGoodGuy Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. For my part, it's hard for me to believe that Pat Buchanan voters would have chosen Al Gore were Buchanan not on the ballot. And "getting more votes" isn't necessarily the objective. The way the system is set up, the goal is to get more electoral votes, which is what happened. If we were setting up an ideal system, I don't think getting more votes should be the goal. The goal should be to select a candidate that a majority (not a plurality) of voters approve of, even if not their first choice. A plurality winner is not necessarily more representative than the winner of the electoral college.
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
But they still got more votes. But even if we had rank choice voting. I doubt some of those outcomes change
Nicea Trya
Nicea Trya - 2 måneder siden
That's not an error rate. That is purposely, well designed system, and it's WORKING!!! Our founding fathers knew the horrors of mob mentality. Small geographic portions of the country deciding the election, ignoring the rest of the country is a bad idea! Why even campaign in other areas then?
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
@Nicea Trya wdym?
Nicea Trya
Nicea Trya - 2 måneder siden
@SuperThunderGoodGuy if the extent of your research relies on a NOburn contributor. I’m just going to exit this discussion at this time, as there is no use in continuing the debate any further.
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
@Nicea Trya actually 50% of the population lives in just 100 counties however it’s unlikely you get 100% of those votes. And CGP grey had a vid about it and just including cities not the outer areas. The one hundred biggest cities make up only 20% of the US population
Nicea Trya
Nicea Trya - 2 måneder siden
@SuperThunderGoodGuy dude, you need better sources... U.S. metro areas make up 85% of the population. Try again.
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
@Nicea Trya which you forgot, only make up 20% of the US population. Try again
Mike p
Mike p - 2 måneder siden
The electoral college is a necessity
But the election should be split
50/50. popular vote/college
The people / reps,sens,and govs
But we have to take back
Senator elections. And let the
STATES pick their senator again.
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
We should do neither. Remember people have power not states. Whoever gets more votes wins Why dose it have to be so difficult?
Retarded Reptile
Retarded Reptile - 2 måneder siden
man just sounds exhausted, not mad, just completely spent
Nix alot
Nix alot - 2 måneder siden
I really don't like how misleading this is, yes 4 times time the winner didn't get as many popular votes as one of the losers. but you completely fail to mention in any of these that in 19 out of the last 59 elections the winner failed to even get the majority of the vote. That's 33% of US elections have a winner with less than 50% of Americans supporting them, with one of the biggest being Lincoln who only got 39% of the popular vote. I want you to think about that for a minute.
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
That’s why we need rank choice voting
Giovanni Lloret Sorribas
Giovanni Lloret Sorribas - 2 måneder siden
I think there is a little difference between "the winner didn't get a majority of the popular vote" and "the person with the biggest share of the popular vote lost"
Nix alot
Nix alot - 2 måneder siden
@Henrix98 No, it is misleading because it makes it sound like it is a rare occurrence that the winner doesn't get the majority of the popular vote. It is misleading because it makes it seem as though most American's didn't want that president to be president, when the 4 elections in question aren't even in the top 5 elections where the winner got the least support. Yes, the election process is shitty and we should move to instant run off (imho), but this is common in American elections and is the way our pluralist system was designed. I'm saying the popular vote is extremely important but people keep making it sound like it is all of the sudden the winner isn't getting a majority support.
Henrix98
Henrix98 - 2 måneder siden
That's down to the shitty election system. Some countries that use popular vote have a second round that has 2 top candidates and winner is guaranteed to get >50%. However I don't see what's misleading about not taking that into account. Are you saying popular vote doesn't matter because it isn't "popular" enough?
MysteryMastery69
MysteryMastery69 - 2 måneder siden
This completely ignores the purpose of the electoral college though, to ensure that masses in big cities cant overrule the majority of states.
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
The 100 biggest cities have 20% of the US population also what would you rather have? Minority rule or majority rule?
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
And it’s purpose is stupid
MysteryMastery69
MysteryMastery69 - 2 måneder siden
Whether you agree with it or not, it exists. Trying to explain the purpose (and I have nothing to do with america so it doesnt bug me one way or the other) to people who dont want to understand is impossible. To join the union is a one way ticket, so the states who expected to be overruled insisted on having a voice.
I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter
I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter - 2 måneder siden
Cities don't vote. People do.
MysteryMastery69
MysteryMastery69 - 2 måneder siden
@Henrix98 not even remotely. The rural areas which are very much not cities overrule provisions that make sense in cities but not on farms for example. In a big city, having an armed populace doesnt make as much sense because the cops are a few minutes away. In rural areas being armed is more important because law enforcement could be an hour away. Just one example, but given that the US is a meta-country this system makes sense otherwise the less populated states would never have joined the union knowing they would always be overruled by people who dont understand their way of life. Whether they should be joined, and whether secession should be considered/allowed/mandated is an entirely different topic. The system didnt foresee a population of 300+ million people, and even less so than more than half of that population would be crammed into a handful of cities.
Karthik ENK
Karthik ENK - 2 måneder siden
_7%_
daKaosjr
daKaosjr - 2 måneder siden
I wonder if this is gonna have to be done again
theX24968B
theX24968B - 2 måneder siden
grey, you don't win a game of chess by capturing more of your opponent's pieces, you win by capturing their king.
you don't win the electoral college by getting more votes overall, you win by getting more electoral votes.
Giovanni Lloret Sorribas
Giovanni Lloret Sorribas - 2 måneder siden
@I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter as a chess aficionado, I agree with this comment
I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter
I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter - 2 måneder siden
Okay, but why does putting the King in checkmate end the game anyway? What makes the King so important that his capture would render the army unable to fight? Is there no chain of command in place where the next-highest-ranking piece takes over as commander? Why are the rules the way that they are?
Paul Kim
Paul Kim - 2 måneder siden
Now he's gonna be gone!
Axel Gust
Axel Gust - 2 måneder siden
At least we didn’t make it 5! I hope...
King Treedede
King Treedede - 2 måneder siden
Is he tired because he got tons of comments complaining or because this happened in the first place
MuffinsAPlenty
MuffinsAPlenty - 2 måneder siden
@Henrix98 It's amazing to me how many people argue against, "We should change things" with "No, we shouldn't, because things are the way they are."
Henrix98
Henrix98 - 2 måneder siden
Judging by the current new comments people don't understand that he is against electoral system and they defend it because that's what is used
King Treedede
King Treedede - 2 måneder siden
@Axel Gust your mom happened in the first place
Axel Gust
Axel Gust - 2 måneder siden
Because it happened in the first place
Jani Linden
Jani Linden - 2 måneder siden
Who would have won the election should we have gone with the popular vote is largely meaningless thought experiment until there actually is a popular vote. I would argue that some people choose not to vote at all in deep red/blue states as their vote effectively won't matter due to winner takes all the electors from the state to the EC, but the same people would vote if there was a direct popular vote, be it FPTP or preferably something else like IRV.
Hannodb1961
Hannodb1961 - 2 måneder siden
I get the argument about the popular vote. But remember, America is a large country, and you need to keep it together somehow. If you go on a purely popular system, states with lower populations, like the mid Western part of the country, will be completely shut out of the political discourse. This is a huge territory. Most people from the coasts never get there, and vice versa. So, if they get the feeling that decisions are being made for them in far away Washington, by people that was mostly elected by far away places, how will you prevent a feeling of resentment and secession in these smaller states? As long as they feel their say carry some weight, they will remain involved. The electoral college is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but any talk of replacing it should keep in mind why it is there in the first place.
Clockwork King
Clockwork King - 2 måneder siden
@Henrix98 yea but that doesn't even remotely fix the problem of smaller states being vastly overrepresented in the electoral college. Wyoming has more than 3 votes proportional to the average American. Do you think there is any reason to think a California Republican or a Texas Democrat can think of for why their vote in a national election matters? Maybe for down-bsllot reasons but not for national elections. Unrelated (well, normally when I say unrelated I mean definitely direct related but this really is more a tangential concern since I don't think prisoners are held out of state very often), but prisoners are counted for the county/city in which the prison resides rather than the county in which they lived before being imprisoned. Most states don't allow prisoners to vote anyway (with some states permanently disenfranchising prisoners for life), but it still does matter since states usually mirror the federal government in the sense county power in state congress is usually proportional to population in that county. More people means more votes, regardless of whether those people are prisoners and can't actually vote. This means that a county with a prison can artificially inflate its population by adding the prisoners while counties that have more imprisoned people (often poorer because crime correlates heavily with poverty) have their population artificially decreased. Again, this problem isn't really relevant to national politics unless out of state prisoners are more common than I think (possible, I'm no expert) but it does affect state legislatures.
Henrix98
Henrix98 - 2 måneder siden
That's why there are senate and house. POTUS represents the people, and senate and house the states
Jan_is_Exist
Jan_is_Exist - 2 måneder siden
most people feel like the decisions are being made in swing states, because the decisions are being made in like 6 ish states
Jortand
Jortand - 2 måneder siden
He sounds so disappointed in the US system, as one should be.
Joey Altieri
Joey Altieri - 2 måneder siden
You can tell how tired he is from his voice, that tone will some up 2020 nicely
Therecreep
Therecreep - 2 måneder siden
that's what the electoral college is meant to do
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
And that’s why the Electoral College is stupid
Therecreep
Therecreep - 2 måneder siden
​@Rylus Your argument is flawed, ultimately any vote over 50.1% is meaningless, no matter what the system is, even in those Split-The-Vote systems, because it will just spur a run-off, . In addition, anyone who thinks their vote doesn't matter because their state votes the other way is just flat out wrong. Clearly, despite losing the election, the GOP gained an insane amount of power in the House on Election night, because of these so called "Worthless Votes"
Rylus
Rylus - 2 måneder siden
States are not homogeneous. Let's take California, they're not 100% blue only 60% to 66%. The rest are discouraged from voting because beyond 50.1% your vote is meaningless. If we had a direct popular vote or electoral college was proportion then every single vote matters and candidates would have to try to be more appealing to more people. If you have candidates doing that then you'll have less partisanship. This first past the post winner tske all system only serves to deepen and entrench our divisions.
Therecreep
Therecreep - 2 måneder siden
@Oscar Wind It’s not a democracy
Clockwork King
Clockwork King - 2 måneder siden
@Therecreep do people vote one way because of local politics and geography or is it because a strange mixture of a system that gives smaller states disproportionate power and a first past the post system that means any vote over 50% for any state means all votes for that state go to one party? Doesn't exactly seem like anyone outside of swing states has a serious incentive to think their vote matters because almost every state is winner take all and, unless the margins are pretty small, it doesn't really matter.
NAG3LT
NAG3LT - 2 måneder siden
I am glad we didn't end up in a universe where we'd be watching 5 / 8% updated updated version.
Ian Simon
Ian Simon - 2 måneder siden
I think you missed the fact that the campaigns would be very different if the voting system was different.
Clockwork King
Clockwork King - 2 måneder siden
He has multiple videos on different voting systems and has repeatedly advocated changing to them.
maxdarner567
maxdarner567 - 2 måneder siden
Seems like whichever side loses complains about the electoral college lol
Giovanni Lloret Sorribas
Giovanni Lloret Sorribas - 2 måneder siden
This is an addition to a video he made BEFORE that sad day in 2016
Taran Z
Taran Z - 2 måneder siden
Almost happened again
Chris M
Chris M - 2 måneder siden
Popular vote isn't what decides the election though, so it's not the metric for determining a winner and loser.
So your statement "the loser would win" is incorrect.
Ad1th CPASR
Ad1th CPASR - 2 måneder siden
That's exactly his point. Popular vote should be what determines an election not the electoral college. A winner in a majority democracy should win by a majority of individual votes. (And before you say it, US still exists as a republic because of Democracy)
Gom Random
Gom Random - 2 måneder siden
The error margin is 9%
BASICLY THERE IS A 1/10 CHANCE A PRES. WINS BY A MINORITY
Nix alot
Nix alot - 2 måneder siden
Not correct at all if you are going to use the terms "minority" and "majority". There have been 19 out of 59 elections where the president was elected by the minority. (1/3rd). It just that 5 out of the last 59 elections the winner had fewer popular votes than the loser. Remember, Lincoln won with 39% of the popular vote.
fclp67
fclp67 - 2 måneder siden
description
Gom Random
Gom Random - 2 måneder siden
WROOONG!!!! THERE HAS BEEN 5 TIMES WHERE A PRESIDENT LOST THE POPULAR VOTE AND WON THE PRRSIDENCY. the one u missed ID 1824
Axel Gust
Axel Gust - 2 måneder siden
Did you read the description of the video?
Robin Koch
Robin Koch - 2 måneder siden
You just need 11 states to win. So, hypothetically, you could win with 11:100 000 000 votes. (If in those 11 states magically only one person votes for you and in the other 40 states everyone votes against you.)
Filip Skumpija
Filip Skumpija - 2 måneder siden
Emmmmm, yea, maybe it will be 5th time now...
JacobSockness Sucks
JacobSockness Sucks - 2 måneder siden
The failure rate is now 6.8%
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 2 måneder siden
@Rajeev Vij and that’s why it needs to be abolished
fclp67
fclp67 - 2 måneder siden
we did it lads
maol 20
maol 20 - 2 måneder siden
Dont worry past grey, the future turned out better
Kyocus
Kyocus - 2 måneder siden
I share your videos about political theory more than anything else these days.
Sam Jukes
Sam Jukes - 2 måneder siden
For a moment I thought it would happen again in 2020.
Khalid Abu Shawarib
Khalid Abu Shawarib - 2 måneder siden
Thanks goodness we don't have to increase the percentage again
YT C.S.K.S
YT C.S.K.S - 2 måneder siden
“NEVER FORGET THAT YOU CHOSE THIS PATH. YOU CHOSE DEATH AND DEFEAT. YOU CHOSE DOOM. YOUR DEATH IS AT HAND!”
—Garon
YT C.S.K.S
YT C.S.K.S - 2 måneder siden
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TheKiss
TheKiss - 2 måneder siden
I'm equal parts befuddled and happy to see somebody connect the twin shitshows of Fire Emblem: Fates and U.S. politics
darkodin7
darkodin7 - 2 måneder siden
Dear Trumpers, he lost with electoral votes and popular vote.
EratagGaming
EratagGaming - 2 måneder siden
Can we get an updated percentage please?
JacobSockness Sucks
JacobSockness Sucks - 2 måneder siden
6.8
darkodin7
darkodin7 - 2 måneder siden
No
Rebuild of Eva is shit watch the original instead
It’s even worse if you consider the recent times of American democracy. I’m 29. Since I was born, there’s been 8 presidential elections. Of those 8, two have been won by the candidate with less votes. That’s a 25% failure rate
Rebuild of Eva is shit watch the original instead
@Nix alot I don't see how it was 4 times and not 2
Nix alot
Nix alot - 2 måneder siden
Well if really want to think about it, 4 out of the last 8 elections had a winner that the majority of voters voted against. That's a failure rate of 50%.
Peeps40836
Peeps40836 - 2 måneder siden
The most depressing video that Grey has ever made.
Tony Kohanek
Tony Kohanek - 2 måneder siden
Isn't it 5? John Q. Adams Lost the popular vote and won the election. Though he was "elected" because nobody had the majority of E.C and it went to the house, but still the winner of the most votes (Andrew Jackson) still lost. So that'd bring it up to 9%
Nix alot
Nix alot - 2 måneder siden
@luigig44 Definitely did not mean majority; he meant most. Our system is based on a plurality not a majority. 19 out of 59 elections had a winner that couldn't get more than 50% of the popular vote. Also like Axel said, it's in the description. There was a tie so not an elector college winner, so he didn't count it.
Axel Gust
Axel Gust - 2 måneder siden
People... Read. The. Description. Of. The. Video. Before. Commenting.
luigig44
luigig44 - 2 måneder siden
Maybe he misspoke and meant "majority of votes" instead of "most votes", or we have different definitions of "most votes"
Daniel Riley
Daniel Riley - 2 måneder siden
i am so happy we did not get another update this year
Gummiel
Gummiel - 2 måneder siden
well technically the % itself would have gone down since we had a successful one, but probably not worth making a video for that reason :P
David Whiting
David Whiting - 2 måneder siden
Glad we will most likely not have to have an update for this video.
Gummiel
Gummiel - 2 måneder siden
well technically the % itself would have gone down since we had a successful one, but probably not worth making a video for that reason :P
Sarun Intaralawan
Sarun Intaralawan - 2 måneder siden
OK, there's no update needed for 2020.
TheNydox
TheNydox - 2 måneder siden
@James Sinn You are right, I can't imagine how angry Gray would be if that happened.
James Sinn
James Sinn - 2 måneder siden
@TheNydox To be fair, the Electoral College hasn't voted yet so the final point total could be off by a few in either direction due to faithless electors, but for sure the biggest part of the election is over.
TheNydox
TheNydox - 2 måneder siden
@Kevin Boros It pretty much is
Kevin Boros
Kevin Boros - 2 måneder siden
Not yet, but the election is not over.
-Dolsen-
-Dolsen- - 2 måneder siden
There could be a video on how corrupt the voting system is, that’s a bigger issue than this
Nikki Griffin
Nikki Griffin - 2 måneder siden
How am I just seeing this now?
Enrique Llerena
Enrique Llerena - 2 måneder siden
Last year year the conservatives won the popular vote in Canada by 1.2% (34.34%) But liberals won 37 seats more of 338. People didn’t complain.
Ihdc1
Ihdc1 - 2 måneder siden
@Clockwork King Yes, we do and it sucks. If a candidate gets 51% of popular vote, they get 100% of the state's electoral votea.
Clockwork King
Clockwork King - 2 måneder siden
@Ihdc1 don't we still use fist past the post? I mean the electoral college is bullshit but the method we use to count each state is still first past the post I think.
Ihdc1
Ihdc1 - 2 måneder siden
@Enrique Llerena Your problem is first past the post. It doesn't seem as unfair as the electoral college at first blush.
Enrique Llerena
Enrique Llerena - 2 måneder siden
@Ihdc1 And the point is? What I am saying is Our system has flaws. A party here got 4.2% of votes and got 32 seats but another one got 16% of the vote and just got 24 seats. ???. And another one got 4.6% but got 3 seats.
Ihdc1
Ihdc1 - 2 måneder siden
Canada doesn't have an electoral college.
G.H.
G.H. - 2 måneder siden
everytime when this happens the republicans win the "vote"
bryguy0052
bryguy0052 - 2 måneder siden
9% chance incoming
fclp67
fclp67 - 2 måneder siden
no
The Catlike
The Catlike - 2 måneder siden
Fingers crossed we don't make it 5 times forcing Grey to make an update update
Tru_Moo_ Milk
Tru_Moo_ Milk - 2 måneder siden
could be 10% 😔
fclp67
fclp67 - 2 måneder siden
literally can't be at this point
UrAwsome55
UrAwsome55 - 2 måneder siden
Please, I do t want to have another update to this video.
Alexplaysminc .-.
Alexplaysminc .-. - 2 måneder siden
Exasperated Grey is how I sound every morning waking up to school.
redraider21s
redraider21s - 2 måneder siden
I have a feeling you're going to have to update this again..... :-(
司此雷
司此雷 - 2 måneder siden
The election in the united states would affect the world..
司此雷
司此雷 - 2 måneder siden
Possibly the fifth time now :(
Toms Ekmanis
Toms Ekmanis - 2 måneder siden
Oh boy, here we go again.
Bastian Grimm
Bastian Grimm - 2 måneder siden
Looks like he might has to update this once again ....
Orion
Orion - 2 måneder siden
I await the 2020 updated version in the coming month
Stefan Grobbink
Stefan Grobbink - 2 måneder siden
I think the video about shenanigans will need an update this time
Valle Marx
Valle Marx - 2 måneder siden
“... It has happened 4 times!"
Wait for it.....
Jason Yu
Jason Yu - 2 måneder siden
I wonder if there will be another one this month
BelgeBob
BelgeBob - 2 måneder siden
Will we see another update tonight?... maybe, probably
Aviation lord
Aviation lord - 2 måneder siden
It’s about to be a 5th time now unfortunately
fclp67
fclp67 - 2 måneder siden
no
DareToRS
DareToRS - 2 måneder siden
Right now, it looks like this might happen for a *fifth* time - bringing the error rate up to 9%. _sigh_
parafraceren
parafraceren - 2 måneder siden
uhm, well it didn't happen tho.
Creator Link
Creator Link - 2 måneder siden
No, THE EGGS ARE IN THE ROOM
Cyrule
Cyrule - 2 måneder siden
Looks like you're gonna have to do another update, Grey.
I already did the math for you, it's 8.4%
edit: thankfully i stand corrected. keep this comment as a relic of a less certain time.
ThePokeGod
ThePokeGod - 2 måneder siden
@Cyrule Credit to Kyle Kulinski for keeping my senses straight about the mail-in ballots being counted later
Cyrule
Cyrule - 2 måneder siden
@ThePokeGod you were right. well done, future man.
ThePokeGod
ThePokeGod - 2 måneder siden
no
Jack N.
Jack N. - 2 måneder siden
Who’s here before the 2020 update video?
Jack N.
Jack N. - 2 måneder siden
jk lol
Samantha P
Samantha P - 2 måneder siden
An update to the update, coming to your inbox soon!..... America, where everyone knows who will have the most votes but no one knows who will win. But everyone will cry about how they have a democracy!!
Paul
Paul - 2 måneder siden
Please oh please I hope this video will not need to have an update to this update
Z Aron
Z Aron - 2 måneder siden
Time for another updated version
Elliot Greenlee
Elliot Greenlee - 2 måneder siden
I'm just waiting for updated version part two.
PeterLiuIsBeast
PeterLiuIsBeast - 2 måneder siden
I'm suspecting CGPGey might need to update again.
NAME NAME NAME
NAME NAME NAME - 2 måneder siden
I think at this point, it's pretty hard to turn around the election, so luckily, it won't worsen this statistic.
Crown Mr Brown
Crown Mr Brown - 2 måneder siden
God i hope he doesnt
Konner Dent
Konner Dent - 2 måneder siden
Buckle up, Tims! This video is going to get another update!
motzPHaragas
motzPHaragas - 2 måneder siden
If this happens today, it will be a 9% failure rate.
Johnny BlackJock
Johnny BlackJock - 2 måneder siden
In just before this happens a 5th time
Tomaz Cante
Tomaz Cante - 2 måneder siden
Y'all feeling the next update coming?
Adaf
Adaf - 2 måneder siden
oh no
Zersetzung
Zersetzung - 2 måneder siden
Walking into November 3rd being like “just fuck my shit up”.
Chesca Christine
Chesca Christine - 2 måneder siden
Let’s hope this doesn’t happen again on Tuesday.
If it does Donny will be the only president who would’ve been voted by the electoral college but lost the popular vote in both elections.
Marcus Bierman
Marcus Bierman - 2 måneder siden
Actually he is the 2nd, Benjamin Harrison won 1888 & lost 1892, but lost the popular vote both times.
vincentmuyo
vincentmuyo - 2 måneder siden
That would have been cool in one sense but terrible in all others.
ihaveshiba
ihaveshiba - 2 måneder siden
I think YouTube's algorithm just cursed the 2020 election
Mythology with Mike
Mythology with Mike - 2 måneder siden
*sweats profusely*
Chris Belair
Chris Belair - 3 måneder siden
Can't wait for "[UPDATED VERSION!] [UPDATED VERSION!] The Trouble With The Electoral College
" when this happens again in 2020! :)
Enraged Monkey
Enraged Monkey - 3 måneder siden
I’m dumbfounded that people still think their vote matters after the 2016 election.
JustAGrookey
JustAGrookey - 3 måneder siden
0:08 Ah yes, because this is how all of us feel.
The6thMessenger
The6thMessenger - 3 måneder siden
If the loser would win, then he's a winner, not a loser. Also US Elections aren't supposed to be democratic, that's just mob rule.
Sebastian Stark
Sebastian Stark - 2 måneder siden
instead its mob rule but only part of the mob is actually importnat
jke
jke - 3 måneder siden
nice update!
lasse Stauby
lasse Stauby - 3 måneder siden
0:08 Maybe it Will become the fifth time in 2020
Cameron Sulak
Cameron Sulak - 3 måneder siden
Please do a video on what it would be like if the Congress did not cap the seats at 435. Like what would the Electoral College look like if there was 800, 1600, 4000 seats to allocate??? Maybe if you also did a video about how the Electoral College is dumb by redrawing lines of the States and showing how it represents more land then people??? TY
Lionblood09
Lionblood09 - 3 måneder siden
The electoral college matters because something like 80% of the us population lives in cal and New York. So the electoral college was created to make it fair to the other states. So this way the other states have more of a say in the election. The other states could feel unrepresented and upset paying taxes towards a system they don’t have a fair say in.
zRiddick
zRiddick - 2 måneder siden
@Lionblood09 This is assuming that the entirety of those four states votes and in the rest only about half do which is very much inaccurate.
Bad Username Creator
Bad Username Creator - 3 måneder siden
He addresses this in the original video
Lionblood09
Lionblood09 - 3 måneder siden
Correction: California, Florida and New York combined make up 25% of the population. But since about 55% of Americans vote every year, half that number is too much power for 3 states to have. The electoral college is still important imo.
Ready or Gormotti
Ready or Gormotti - 3 måneder siden
Total US Population: 312.8 million California Population: 39.5 million (11.91%) Texas Population: 29.0 million (8.74%) Florida Population: 21.5 million (6.47%) New York Population: 19.5 million (5.86%) These four only combine to make up about 30% of the population, and they're huge outliers. Every other state has less than 4% of the population. While you could make a case for this upset being potentially unrepresentative, New York and California only add up to 17.77% of the population, a tiny fraction of your 80% estimate. It's far more negligible than that sentiment would make it out to be. If you're worried about voters feeling unrepresented, worry about all the Republican Californians and Democrat Texans who have no chance of making any meaningful impact on the presidential vote simply due to where they live.
Jokubas playz
Jokubas playz - 3 måneder siden
Grey is so done.
Ho Yin Ching
Ho Yin Ching - 5 måneder siden
Normal Grey: Chance That the loser would win?
Exasperated Grey: Likely
Midgard Eagle
Midgard Eagle - 5 måneder siden
This brings me back to how we all felt in 2016...
Samuel Baird
Samuel Baird - 6 måneder siden
It’s not exactly a failure seeing how the objective of the system isn’t to have the president be the person who receives the popular vote...
EightThreeEight
EightThreeEight - 4 måneder siden
Which is exactly why the system is broken.
SuperThunderGoodGuy
SuperThunderGoodGuy - 5 måneder siden
That’s not the point he’s trying to make
Knei
Knei - 7 måneder siden
Grey sounds depressed
Kisen Liang
Kisen Liang - 7 måneder siden
Cry lefty cuz that what you can do.
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